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Kronos Sound Quality Same As Oasys??
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TheStrong

Joined: 07 Jan 2012
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:05 am Post subject: Kronos Sound Quality Same As Oasys??

Hey everyone, Great forum! Just had a question that I hope I can get answered here. I had the Korg Oasys and I sold it for the Kronos . I would like to know whether I'm crazy and hearing things or if there is a technical answer to this question. Is the actual sound quality of the Kronos less than the Oasys? When I play the Kronos programs and sounds...they just don't seem to have the depth, texture, fullness and overall quality as I had in my Oasys. Is this true? Is there a technical/hardware reason as to why? I know all the sound engines are the same so I figured that the quality would also be the same. Maybe I was wrong. Thanks so much amigos!

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Sharp
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:11 am Post subject:

Theres was a thread in the OASYS section here about all this. http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=64070 To make a long story short though, see this post from Dan. http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=433541#433541 Regards Sharp

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TheStrong

Joined: 07 Jan 2012
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:19 am Post subject:

Sharp wrote:

Theres was a thread in the OASYS section here about all this.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=64070

To make a long story short though, see this post from Dan.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=433541#433541

Regards
Sharp

Thank you Sharp. My apologize, I should have searched the forum first.
Does Dan's answer apply to just the individual Programs as well as Combis? I am wondering over the individual sounds/programs.

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billysynth1
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:35 am Post subject:

I have both...i dont care about other people's opinion on this or technical details. It might be psychological it might be emotional it might be mathematical, or whatever, if you think you hear a difference then thats the answer for you. I think i hear a difference, but i'm not sure if i'm assuming its a differnce because of the O's superior built quality and it creates a different emotion within me leading me to believe it sounds better...is it the keybed on the O that creates the difference, where i feel i can bring out sounds how i want them to sound as i press the keys....? I dont really know why i feel like that...my comments here are for me only, not somebody else...I'm comfortable and happy with my conclusion You feel how you want to feel and thats it...i'm the same with my improvisations. Regards Billy _________________ Yamaha C1 Grand Piano. Korg Oasys 88, Jupiter 80 Kronos 88, V Synth GT I am a student of classical piano...I am not a classical pianist.

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Sharp
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:50 am Post subject:

TheStrong wrote:

Does Dan's answer apply to just the individual Programs as well as Combis? I am wondering over the individual sounds/programs.

I dont know to be honest.
Im not even sure Id agree as I feel I could hear a difference between the audio files uploaded and that the OASYS sounded fatter.

All I do know for sure is that they both sounded awesome. It's a win win either way in my opinion.

Regards
Sharp.

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Rocness
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:29 am Post subject:

The kronos sound does not have the WOW! factor like The Oasys sound . The Oasys sound has more weight to it and has this beautiful sparkle in HD layered on top .You can hear it more when the sound has movement to it. Captain Kirt "Mr. Shulu" Mr Sulu "yes Captain" Captain Kirt "shields up" Mr Sulu "yes Sir"

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jimknopf
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Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:09 am Post subject:

The difference is smaller than between two Minimoog Model Ds IMHO, and I'm not even sure, which one I liked more in the (more or less) 1:1 example soundfiles we heard in this forum. But if it comforts Oasys owners to think they have something in advance, how much psachology however involved, that's all fine with me. No need to duck away for anyone. The essential thing I do know though, without any doubt, is how gorgeous the Kronos sounds to me, not leaving any tiny bit to wish in sound quality from my side. And since it is significnatly more advanced than the Oasys, in areas of key imprtance to me, I don't even consider this whole question seriously. Be happy. Make music. On either. _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5

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popmann
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Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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Location: Nashville

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:22 am Post subject:

I can tell you I had no desire to buy an Oasys. No disk streaming. No EP modelling. I guess it had the cx3. Mostly nothing I wanted. I can certainly believe an $8k better build board would have nicer converters...but, it no sounds I cared about. I will say that I compared the AD in the Kronos to the AD on my Echo card--six of one. The Echo might've been a little clearer, as I could distinguish some sample defects I couldn't with the K88 converters... I have a feeling, though, that Korgs audience has always been one of synth sounds--prior to the sv1 and Kronos, they couldn't compete with Kurz/Roland/Yammy for pianos and drums and strings and such. The cx3 was fab, though, for a hardware Hammond model. Anyway...if you like the sound better, you can rectify that by buying a Benchmark ad unit and hooking it to the spdif. No way Oasys AD was that caliber.

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Sina172
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:35 am Post subject:

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zengomi
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:43 am Post subject:

Until we are privileged to listen to an actual and meaningful comparison, this thread steads.

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kid_nepro_2002
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject:

Sina172 wrote:

I have racks of the new Apogee Symphony I/O, RME Audio Interfaces and Converters, Avid ProTools|HD Interfaces, Benchmark, Grace, Antelope Audio Clock units, Rosendahl Clock units, Lucid Audio, Drawmer, Lynx, Grace Design, and several Audiophile pieces with prices as high as some of you guys make in years salary.

Man, talk about condescending remarks.
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jimknopf
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject:

Whenever you hear such remarks, never ask "What?" Just ask "From whom", and don't worry any more. _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5

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Kontrol49
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject:

kid_nepro_2002 wrote:

Man, talk about condescending remarks.

Nah not really....

its just copy and paste stuff from his text book of bulls***

Simply >>>>
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popmann
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure what you're "analyzing" in Logic about a DAC...thing about such things is, it's situational. The DAC in the Kronos is not as clear as my Echo (by a bit)--but, it's actually more musically forgiving to the sample sets in the Kronos, so that makes the internal ones the "better DAC for the job". But, my point remains, right? You can't really play any of the same samples I use (personally) in the Oasys--the drums, piano and EP engine sounds...so, it's a moot point to me which might have better DACs. Beauty of the situation is if the embedded system's DAC makes a more musically forgiving output...you connect it analog to you recording system's converters that we could objectively call "flatter"...and the sound you love coming out of the Kronos is faithfully captured. I've ranted here before...I often think in the cost benefit of digital we've forgotten that digital or not, if you use analog connections, each digital piece works the way the designer intended...let them worry about what DAC circuits sound best for whatever their gear does. I digress.

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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:00 am Post subject:

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